Curse

Moltov joss · Aug 11, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

and people are still buying and the price is still rising

notice silver dye has now passed 10 k for the moment?

people think it will go higher and are grabbing it.

Black is selling for close to 40k each. Earlier the trader was only buying it for 1 gold piece.

neoflame · Aug 11, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

and people are still buying and the price is still rising

No, it's a refutation to your post. Those are four different runes with screenshots taken at the same time. Runes sometimes (I think all the time since a few patches ago?) get a value assigned when ID'd, and the value is the minimum the trader will pay you for that particular rune.

Loviatar · Aug 11, 2005, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moltov joss

Black is selling for close to 40k each. Earlier the trader was only buying it for 1 gold piece.

be of good cheer as he is now this very minute offering 266 gold

Red Sonya · Aug 11, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

I've found it's just best to sell the armor piece than the rune, I've got like 76gp for the armor before salvaging and then the dang rune is only worth 25gp after salvaging, what a loss 16gp to salvage it for a whopping loss of 65gp. Screw expert salvaging any runes other than superior anymore, it's all whacked up it seems. And while I used to could unload these runes pretty fast for at least 100gp, now hardly anyone buys them anymore thanks to the "free faction buys" from the PVP arenas. Many items are just worthless now other than npc vendor, with all the runes, hilts, hafts, bowstrings, staff heads and pommels now available for easy unlocking through faction points, people are just making PVP characters and buying the easy runes and equipment with faction points. Hell I do it also, can't beat them, join them. I don't need to buy any superior runes at all. Basically boils down to all that is worth trying to sell are weapons of the greatest quality, can forget hilts and pommels and hafts and the rest. People just aren't buying much of them anymore. All I see in Ascalon anymore is WTS WTS WTS, rarely do I see a WTB unless it's for "materials" for armor. Still make a good income on that, until they give that away for FREE too I guess through faction points.

And DYES, my gawd dye prices have soared out of this world. Lol pretty soon people will be complaining the price of silver and black dyes is rediculous. lol For me though it doesn't matter dyes like Fissure/15k armor is just a vanity thing anyway. I don't care what I look like as long as I crush everyone in the arenas.

Loviatar · Aug 11, 2005, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflame

No, it's a refutation to your post. Those are four different runes with screenshots taken at the same time. Runes sometimes (I think all the time since a few patches ago?) get a value assigned when ID'd, and the value is the minimum the trader will pay you for that particular rune.

nope

i see values on 3 of them

also how did you get prices on 3 items at once from the rune traded?

i thought they had to be taken one by one?

neoflame · Aug 11, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

nope

i see values on 3 of them

also how did you get prices on 3 items at once from the rune traded?

i thought they had to be taken one by one?

Because the last one is an older rune.

I got the values by just hovering over the runes with the mouse...

Loviatar · Aug 11, 2005, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoflame

Because the last one is an older rune.

I got the values by just hovering over the runes with the mouse...

interesting

thank you

Krank · Aug 11, 2005, 12:58 AM // 00:58

red dye 600g
Buy price = 93 g

RIPPED OFF

trancejeremy · Aug 11, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01

The traders are screwy. Or they had been, for the last few days before today.

The day before yesterday night (morning, really) I went on a mission to kill that bandit in Kryta, and on the way, I ended up killing a lot of plants and got a lot of plant fibers. So I decided to turn them into linen and see if I could sell them.

The first time I requested a quote from the material trader, it was pretty low, like 2000g, which is less than it cost to make. (at the time, he was selling 10 linen for something like 16k) So I looked at the price of something else. Then I go back and get a price quote for linen again, and he's paying 13.5k or so. So I sold them.

Thinking I found a way to get rich, I went and killed some more plants and made 10 more linen. But when I went to sell them, the trader was just buying 10 for 100 g (but selling for 13.5 k or so). However, after getting a quote for something else, I went back and again, got 100 g. But eventually I kept doing it and eventually he started offering 2k. This figure went up slowly to about 3.5k, then back down.

I checked today, and it seems more stable. Every time I asked, he was buying for about 900 g. Which is a lousy price, since he is selling at 13.5, but there isn't the weird jumping around anymore. (Though I only played for about 10 minute today, so didn't check it very long...)

twicky_kid · Aug 11, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03

i think they maybe starving the market right now. making the sell prices really low so you don't sell to merchants while the buying prices goes way up. they can always reset it and occasionally do. guess they think they can soak up some of the gold that was farmed before the nerfs.

just like today. last night before bed minor str rune was at 4k. log in today and its 150g. i don't even care to hear supply and demand anymore because i know that it only works that way on the buying prices. selling prices never change unless they are high on that rune so maybe you'll sell to merchant so they don't run out.

reason the economy is so out of wack is because of how much gold is out there. just like real life the more money you print the less its value is. if they can lower the amount of gold out there with the merchant's high prices then they can up the drops again.

gabby2600 · Aug 11, 2005, 01:09 AM // 01:09

easiest way to keep a tabs on the gold, is to limit the amount per instance, So in the early instances you may get 250 gold max, and the later a few thousand. Once you rach that max you get no gold or item drops. They can blance th drops quite well across all the creatures in an instance, so they can controll the flow of gold. THey could even use this to control the flow of gold to the whole world. SO if to much has escaped they can limit the drops. And if not enough is out their then can increase them.

Another note I have spoken to a.net support they told me they would nto touch the economy, and it would sort it's self out over time. And that players should trade with each other. To which I repsonded so The casual player has to spend his 1 hour a day spamming all channels to sell his stuff. As of yet no responce to that form them.